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blindman
Flowing Fount of Yak Knowledge

USA
2365 Posts

Posted - 06/16/2006 :  15:36:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Saying that the more overtime a developer works the better they are is about equivalent to saying that the longer a piece of code is, the better it is.
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RickD
Slow But Sure Yak Herding Master

United Kingdom
3608 Posts

Posted - 06/19/2006 :  05:41:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by blindman

Saying that the more overtime a developer works the better they are is about equivalent to saying that the longer a piece of code is, the better it is.


My thought's exactly. I thought the only people who had to work really long hours were DBA's?

If a developer can't manage their workload, they are doing something wrong (unless they are a junior and still trying to learn as quickly as possible)..
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Kristen
Test

United Kingdom
22403 Posts

Posted - 06/19/2006 :  06:07:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"As a developer, what is the longest day in terms of hours you've worked?"

I'd hire the person that said "8 hours, and all my projects were on time and on budget"

Damn ... just seen another herd of pigs flying past the window.

Kristen
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ws5926
Yak Posting Veteran

USA
88 Posts

Posted - 06/30/2006 :  16:25:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have worked a couple of 24+ hour days. Not sure what my highest has been.

If you have a bug in a nightly process that runs for 3+ hours, it's tough to test in a short amount of time. Given also that said process was reversed engineered from little if no specs and is mission critical by my boss's boss. Not the best situation to code for, but you look like a miracle worker when all is said and done.

Just wanted to vent. No real point.

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Throw to Live
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jsmith8858
Dr. Cross Join

USA
7423 Posts

Posted - 06/30/2006 :  17:00:20  Show Profile  Visit jsmith8858's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Merkin

quote:
Originally posted by blindman

Hey, don't dis' all of us!

My company is pretty picky about the people we hire. I'm frequently called in to do technical interviews on prospective candidates, and I know where you are coming from because my pass rate is about 10%. Part of the problem is clients that do not know the difference between an experienced IT professional and some noob who creates Access files in his mom's basement. And they aren't willing to pay for a qualified professional.

blindman, Senior Database Consultant - Quick Solutions Inc.




Don't knock access. You'll upset Jeff



Damian
"A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds." - Emerson



I'm here, let the flame-war and trolling begin !!!!!
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Stoad
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Posted - 06/30/2006 :  17:25:59  Show Profile  Visit Stoad's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jsmith8858

I'm here, let the flame-war and trolling begin !!!!!


Then let me to start it.

IMO MS Access is the best thing I've ever seen.

No irony implied here.
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blindman
Flowing Fount of Yak Knowledge

USA
2365 Posts

Posted - 06/30/2006 :  22:31:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The BEST thing? That's stretching it. But it's pretty good for small, rapid application development. Like I said:
quote:
Originally posted by blindman

I wouldn't knock Access. It's a great little tool for small, rapid application development. I have the same affection for Access that most guys have for their first car...

So you'll need to find some other topic to get a flame war out of me. Ask Brett. He could probably point out some touchy areas for me, if you really want one...
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Michael Valentine Jones
Yak DBA Kernel (pronounced Colonel)

USA
7020 Posts

Posted - 06/30/2006 :  23:53:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have no problem with Access, as long as I don't get involved in conversations that begin like this:

"Jean in purchasing made this Access database to help her do purchase order quotes. Now the whole manufacturing department depends on this database to maintain inventory of critical materials.

It really seems to have trouble when 40 people are using it at the same time. Now that Jean left, no one knows how it works, so we need you to convert it to SQL Server. You have to get it done by tomorrow so that we can use it for the physical inventory process."




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Kristen
Test

United Kingdom
22403 Posts

Posted - 07/01/2006 :  06:17:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I reckon a trigger in the SQL Database which posts all changes to Access is what you need :-)
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Stoad
Freaky Yak Linguist

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1983 Posts

Posted - 07/01/2006 :  13:15:13  Show Profile  Visit Stoad's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by blindman

I have the same affection for Access that most guys have for their first car...


This is it! Exactly my case.

==================

Guys!
Look at this wunderkind!
He is only 11 y.o.!!! And he lives in my town!
I learned about him just a week ago.

5 years ago (when he was 6 y.o.!) he successfully competed
in our local olympiads on programming for 15-16 y.o. schoolboys.

PS
Problems on Sphere Online Judge are really very hard.
Moreover several of them are from the frontier of comp. science.
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Kristen
Test

United Kingdom
22403 Posts

Posted - 07/02/2006 :  08:13:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There's something wrong with the water where you live Stoad!
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Michael Valentine Jones
Yak DBA Kernel (pronounced Colonel)

USA
7020 Posts

Posted - 07/03/2006 :  08:39:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Another dead one, Jim
http://www.sqlteam.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=68599




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ws5926
Yak Posting Veteran

USA
88 Posts

Posted - 07/03/2006 :  08:54:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I can't believe that someone would be that dumb. That seems like a fake post.

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Michael Valentine Jones
Yak DBA Kernel (pronounced Colonel)

USA
7020 Posts

Posted - 07/03/2006 :  13:47:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ws5926
...I can't believe that someone would be that dumb...

Is is really so hard to believe?

Look a the two links in the first post on this thread.



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Kristen
Test

United Kingdom
22403 Posts

Posted - 07/04/2006 :  00:38:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"Is is really so hard to believe?"

Definitely.

That he generated a script and ran it without realising the consequences?

Easy, I could do that.

That he had no backups?

Nope, definitely can't believe that one ...
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X002548
Not Just a Number

15586 Posts

Posted - 07/05/2006 :  11:18:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Stoad

quote:
Originally posted by jsmith8858

I'm here, let the flame-war and trolling begin !!!!!


Then let me to start it.

IMO MS Access is the best thing I've ever seen.

No irony implied here.





Only probalem I have with Access are the actual people who use it and don't understand

Does Access have derived tables yet?



Brett

8-)

Hint: Want your questions answered fast? Follow the direction in this link
http://weblogs.sqlteam.com/brettk/archive/2005/05/25/5276.aspx

Add yourself!
http://www.frappr.com/sqlteam
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elwoos
Flowing Fount of Yak Knowledge

United Kingdom
2050 Posts

Posted - 07/06/2006 :  03:26:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
IMO the problem with Access is that it comes with Office.

People/manager types then think, "Oh look, it's just like using Word or Excel, why does it take these IT types weeks/months to do this stuff when all you need to do is follow this nice simple wizard and you can store your data, it even makes pretty screens for you to use"

steve


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Don't worry head. The computer will do all the thinking from now on.
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Michael Valentine Jones
Yak DBA Kernel (pronounced Colonel)

USA
7020 Posts

Posted - 07/11/2006 :  06:20:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This one's dead too, Jim

help...
http://www.sqlteam.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=68885

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Michael Valentine Jones
Yak DBA Kernel (pronounced Colonel)

USA
7020 Posts

Posted - 07/18/2006 :  17:32:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This one's dead too; he just doesn't know it yet.

Restore Changes To a DB
http://www.sqlteam.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=69271





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jsmith8858
Dr. Cross Join

USA
7423 Posts

Posted - 07/18/2006 :  18:57:49  Show Profile  Visit jsmith8858's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by X002548

quote:
Originally posted by Stoad

quote:
Originally posted by jsmith8858

I'm here, let the flame-war and trolling begin !!!!!


Then let me to start it.

IMO MS Access is the best thing I've ever seen.

No irony implied here.





Only probalem I have with Access are the actual people who use it and don't understand

Does Access have derived tables yet?



Brett

8-)

Hint: Want your questions answered fast? Follow the direction in this link
http://weblogs.sqlteam.com/brettk/archive/2005/05/25/5276.aspx

Add yourself!
http://www.frappr.com/sqlteam




Yes. Always did, you just needed to save them as seperate queries.

- Jeff

Edited by - jsmith8858 on 07/18/2006 21:48:20
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