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Posted - 11/06/2012 :  18:16:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
this is conventional JOIN
SELECT D1.deptno, D1.dname
FROM dept D1
SELECT D2.deptno, D2.dname
FROM dept D2, emp E2
WHERE D2.deptno = E2.deptno

this query can be rewritten in Anti JOIN

SELECT D.deptno, D.dname
FROM dept D
FROM emp E
WHERE E.deptno = D.deptno
ORDER BY D.deptno;

which query (Anti JOIN or JOIN) has a faster performance regradless of SQL engine platform (Orcle, SQL server, Mysql)?

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Posted - 11/06/2012 :  19:36:22  Show Profile  Visit robvolk's Homepage  Reply with Quote
It's meaningless to state "regardless of SQL engine platform" as MINUS is only valid for Oracle. The equivalent for SQL Server is EXCEPT, and I don't know if MySQL has an equivalent or if is supports EXISTS(). In any case, even if you find a syntax they all support, none of them will optimize or process the SQL the same way, and performance will vary.

By the way, the LEFT JOIN syntax would be better classified as a "conventional JOIN", as it is supported by the ISO SQL standard:
SELECT D.deptno, D.dname
FROM dept D
LEFT JOIN emp E ON D.deptno = E.deptno
ORDER BY D.deptno;
That is somewhat more likely to work on all 3 platforms, and actually uses JOIN syntax. They still won't process the same way, although their optimizers may construct the same or very similar plan to any of the other forms you listed.
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Posted - 11/07/2012 :  07:09:05  Show Profile  Visit Transact Charlie's Homepage  Reply with Quote

which query (Anti JOIN or JOIN) has a faster performance regradless of SQL engine platform (Orcle, SQL server, Mysql)?

It's easy to forget that when we talk about set based code from a logical principal -- that underneath the hood there is no set based operation going on.

Any engine on any classical computer will need to break down into loops of code at some point. So your question isn't really answerable.

That leaves us with style and statement:

For me a LEFT JOIN and a WHERE XX IS NULL construction isn't really stating what you want (its not being declarative)

Both EXCEPT and NOT EXISTS are more declarative. EXCEPT is the iso standard (oracle uses MINUS)

but if you want to talk about performance you need to talk in terms of engines and implementations.

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