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ehorn
Master Smack Fu Yak Hacker

1632 Posts
Posted - 2003-11-19 : 11:47:06
Hey Guys/Gals,

Where do these titles come from?

Can someone give me a little history/meaning on this?

X002548
Not Just a Number

15586 Posts
Posted - 2003-11-19 : 12:06:12
Hey,

We just wanted to know what's with the YAK...no answers to date..



Brett

8-)
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X002548
Not Just a Number

15586 Posts
Posted - 2003-11-19 : 12:27:13
But you just gotta get one:

http://www.cafeshops.com/sqlteam

And a blast from (the not so distant past):

http://www.sqlteam.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=26645&whichpage=1

And why are all the links broken?



Brett

8-)
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mohdowais
Sheikh of Yak Knowledge

1456 Posts
Posted - 2003-11-19 : 12:32:18
The yak of course comes from Graz's yak fetish...SQL=Yak

The links from all threads somehow broke when graz upgraded the forums.

Graz, we're still waiting for the answer here!!

Owais

Where there's a will, I want to be in it.
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graz
Chief SQLTeam Crack Dealer

4149 Posts
Posted - 2003-11-19 : 13:40:02
The titles come from me trying to make up titles that involve SQL but don't imply any particular level of SQL knowledge. And maybe throw in some kind of yak reference. So I try to create titles that have SQL words, such as "contstraint". However I try to avoid titles that actually say someone is good at SQL (Server), such as "SQL Stud". As everyone takes great pains to point out, a high post count doesn't necessarily mean one is great at SQL (Server).

As to the yak stuff. I'll write up something here soon. I've always tried to keep the "yak stuff" kind of mysterious. But I suppose it needs a little explaining.

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Creating tomorrow's legacy systems today.
One crisis at a time.
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tkizer
Almighty SQL Goddess

38200 Posts
Posted - 2003-11-19 : 13:41:59
quote:
Originally posted by graz

As everyone takes great pains to point out, a high post count doesn't necessarily mean one is great at SQL (Server).




Tara
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SamC
White Water Yakist

3467 Posts
Posted - 2003-11-19 : 14:41:19
I don't think Graz meant you Tara.

Then there are a few with high post counts who are "SQL Studs" (or Studettes)
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X002548
Not Just a Number

15586 Posts
Posted - 2003-11-19 : 15:23:03
quote:
Originally posted by graz

to the yak stuff. I'll write up something here soon. I've always tried to keep the "yak stuff" kind of mysterious. But I suppose it needs a little explaining.


Nah, don't...



Brett

8-)
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drymchaser
Aged Yak Warrior

552 Posts
Posted - 2003-11-19 : 16:36:22
What is it?

... me I guess in a few (hundred) more posts
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Stoad
Freaky Yak Linguist

1983 Posts
Posted - 2003-11-19 : 17:24:49
Honestly speaking, be I an employer the Warrior Princess was
the 1st candidate for a vacancy in my company... She looks
so industrious, resolute and reliable. Very nice features,
especially for daily (sometimes dull) work.

LOL other case with some obscure geniuses.
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SamC
White Water Yakist

3467 Posts
Posted - 2003-11-19 : 17:29:20
I agree with Brett. Explain nothing . Keep the mystery.
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tkizer
Almighty SQL Goddess

38200 Posts
Posted - 2003-11-19 : 17:53:10
quote:
Originally posted by Stoad

Honestly speaking, be I an employer the Warrior Princess was
the 1st candidate for a vacancy in my company... She looks
so industrious, resolute and reliable. Very nice features,
especially for daily (sometimes dull) work.

LOL other case with some obscure geniuses.


Thanks!

Tara
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The Enigma
Posting Yak Master

179 Posts
Posted - 2003-11-19 : 18:40:58
Tell me guys ... Have any one of yoou ever seen a live YAK ?

I have ridden one ... and believe me .. it was a terrifying experience .

Attitude is everything

{The Enigma}
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tkizer
Almighty SQL Goddess

38200 Posts
Posted - 2003-11-19 : 18:41:34
You rode one? Graz must be so jealous.

Tara
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ehorn
Master Smack Fu Yak Hacker

1632 Posts
Posted - 2003-11-19 : 20:06:51
Graz, Please don't give up the YAK!!

But rather how does one apply/request a title like:

"SQLTeam Crack Dealer in Training"

or something like that...

But actually I remember reading a post some time back about titles being a privilege and not a right and I kinda agree with this philosophy.

Any thoughts ??
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Merkin
Funky Drop Bear Fearing SQL Dude!

4970 Posts
Posted - 2003-11-19 : 20:16:23
Shhhhhh, don't ask

Generally you get a custom title at 1000, or if we think of something really witty



Damian
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ehorn
Master Smack Fu Yak Hacker

1632 Posts
Posted - 2003-11-19 : 20:19:33
Oops,

Time to change your email address.

Thanks for the explanation.
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X002548
Not Just a Number

15586 Posts
Posted - 2003-11-19 : 20:33:12
quote:
Originally posted by ehorn

But actually I remember reading a post some time back about titles being a privilege and not a right and I kinda agree with this philosophy.


That sounds soooo familiar.....

quote:

As everyone takes great pains to point out, a high post count doesn't necessarily mean one is great at SQL (Server).


and why is that the inference? Couldn't it be that the count infers the person's want (or is that need?) to learn? Or help? Or to take part of a greater community?

MOO

Hey, an MVY, is a better judge of the volume of knowlegde

And, also, half the time is spent trying to drag out the question...

SQLTeam Rocks!

Go Tara GO



Brett

8-)
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Merkin
Funky Drop Bear Fearing SQL Dude!

4970 Posts
Posted - 2003-11-19 : 20:33:38
Why do I need to change my email address ?



Damian
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ehorn
Master Smack Fu Yak Hacker

1632 Posts
Posted - 2003-11-19 : 20:36:26
<Flood of EMail Requests for a new title>
quote:

Shhhhhh, don't ask

</Flood of EMail Requests for a new title>
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Merkin
Funky Drop Bear Fearing SQL Dude!

4970 Posts
Posted - 2003-11-19 : 20:38:36
quote:
Originally posted by X002548
and why is that the inference? Couldn't it be that the count infers the person's want (or is that need?) to learn? Or help? Or to take part of a greater community?



SQLTeam.com history lesson
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In the beginning, there was Yak. And the yak was good.

oops.
Back in the old days, the titles used to all have SQL in them, so at 250 (which was a LOT then) you would become a "Constraint Violating SQL Guru".

What happened was a certain person, who is no longer around, attained that level by starting flamewars and posting incoherent, inaccurate answers to newbies.

So it would be easy for someone to walk away thinking they had a definitive answer from a guru, when in fact it was total crap.

So titles changed so that post count didn't look like a direct comparison to knowledge or experience.



Damian
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