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RickD
Slow But Sure Yak Herding Master
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 08/26/2009 : 05:48:21
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Originally posted by robvolk
I'm open to suggestions on the custom title.
Shame if he never posts again as he's quite funny..
How about "Has yet to learn the Outer limits" |
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jimf
Flowing Fount of Yak Knowledge
USA
2868 Posts |
Posted - 08/26/2009 : 07:09:32
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I like that!
How about "Plonker From Beyond the Outer Limits"?
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cat_jesus
Aged Yak Warrior
547 Posts |
Posted - 08/26/2009 : 09:04:59
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Originally posted by RickD
quote:
Originally posted by robvolk
I'm open to suggestions on the custom title.
Shame if he never posts again as he's quite funny..
How about "Has yet to learn the Outer limits"
I think his ego is too inflated for him to disappear just yet. I can't wait for him to show us how to "symphonize a database"
Did you see his "company" website? Database wizardry is one of the things "they" do. I wonder if "they" use a cauldron and potions in their wizardry or just stick to spells and wands.
Please excuse me while I recite my reindex incantation.
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SwePeso
Patron Saint of Lost Yaks
Sweden
29138 Posts |
Posted - 08/26/2009 : 09:46:19
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IncisiveOne >= WhiteFang?
N 56°04'39.26"
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cat_jesus
Aged Yak Warrior
547 Posts |
Posted - 08/26/2009 : 10:08:44
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Peso,
I was just thinking about how much fun it would be to get those two sniping at each other. That would be hilarious.
Experts only please.
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TG
Flowing Fount of Yak Knowledge
USA
5469 Posts |
Posted - 08/26/2009 : 10:18:38
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Originally posted by Peso
IncisiveOne >= WhiteFang?
N 56°04'39.26"
E 12°55'05.63"
Similar personalities but WhiteFang is much younger than IncisiveOne. Hmm...maybe they are father/son.
Be One with the Optimizer
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TG
Flowing Fount of Yak Knowledge
USA
5469 Posts |
Posted - 08/26/2009 : 17:06:00
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Well, he's still posting...
I get the idea that he's one of those guys that goes out to a bar with his friends not to have a drink with his friends but rather to find someone else in the bar to have a fight with. He is just making statements to get people to "fight" with him. He is by no means supporting the spirit of this forum. maybe his title should be "chip" as in has a chip on his shoulder.
Be One with the Optimizer
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russell
Pyro-ma-ni-yak
USA
4968 Posts |
Posted - 08/27/2009 : 11:49:30
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i can't believe i let this guy draw me into an argument. the problem is when people post that kind of garbage, someone might actually believe them...scary. exact same attitude as sqlusa on the sqlmag forum. i'd almost swear its the same guy.
unwilling to learn and then gets offended when people point out where he's wrong. wow. |
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robvolk
Most Valuable Yak
USA
15559 Posts |
Posted - 08/27/2009 : 12:44:23
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Michael Valentine Jones
Yak DBA Kernel (pronounced Colonel)
USA
6997 Posts |
Posted - 08/31/2009 : 10:14:35
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OK, I tried to have a civil dialog with this guy and just stick to the facts, but his rudeness and insults really make it a chore. The only reason I posted on that thread was to counterbalance some of the misinformation he is putting out there.
Some of his posts imply that he is going to stop posting here, but he seems to be incapable of not having the last word.
Moving away from a cursor to while loop
http://www.sqlteam.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=131674
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robvolk
Most Valuable Yak
USA
15559 Posts |
Posted - 08/31/2009 : 11:41:04
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RyanAustin
Yak Posting Veteran
Canada
50 Posts |
Posted - 08/31/2009 : 13:59:14
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But you also have to wonder. Does, IncisiveOne, talk, the way, he, types? I didn't think William Shatner had the time to become a self proclaimed "Guru"
"What is it now, are you suggesting that, given a Relational database, which has a relational logical key in the table, when one has to loop through the rows " |
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cat_jesus
Aged Yak Warrior
547 Posts |
Posted - 08/31/2009 : 14:03:21
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Ryan, I met one other person who wrote like that. He was insane and not nearly as bright as he thought he was. He had difficulty having personal relationships with anyone. I suspect that InsecureOne has the same kind of difficulties.
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RyanAustin
Yak Posting Veteran
Canada
50 Posts |
Posted - 08/31/2009 : 14:04:17
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Originally posted by cat_jesus
Ryan, I met one other person who wrote like that. He was insane and not nearly as bright as he thought he was. He had difficulty having personal relationships with anyone. I suspect that InsecureOne has the same kind of difficulties.
An infinite universe is the ultimate cartesian product.
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GilaMonster
Flowing Fount of Yak Knowledge
South Africa
4507 Posts |
Posted - 08/31/2009 : 16:19:53
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Btw, if anyone's interested in the actual reasons for not using outer joins, look at C. J. Date's works. One of his books is available online through Safari books. His stance against outer joins stems from his work on NULLs in the relational model. It's worth reading, even if you don't agree with his stance.
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GilaMonster
Flowing Fount of Yak Knowledge
South Africa
4507 Posts |
Posted - 08/31/2009 : 16:23:20
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Originally posted by Michael Valentine Jones
OK, I tried to have a civil dialog with this guy and just stick to the facts, but his rudeness and insults really make it a chore. The only reason I posted on that thread was to counterbalance some of the misinformation he is putting out there.
Well if he goes off at me there it'll be the third time this year that someone has insulted and sworn at me for insisting that clustered indexes don't guarantee order.
I must say I'm surprised that someone who claims to follow the relational model would assume an order on a table.
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Michael Valentine Jones
Yak DBA Kernel (pronounced Colonel)
USA
6997 Posts |
Posted - 08/31/2009 : 17:31:17
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Originally posted by GilaMonster
Btw, if anyone's interested in the actual reasons for not using outer joins, look at C. J. Date's works. One of his books is available online through Safari books. His stance against outer joins stems from his work on NULLs in the relational model. It's worth reading, even if you don't agree with his stance.
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SQL Server MVP
Is it a comparison of some "ideal and pure" relational database against a “corrupted version” implemented by database vendors, or does it take on the problems of how to solve the problems addressed by OUTER JOINS in a real-world RDBMS, like SQL Server?
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robvolk
Most Valuable Yak
USA
15559 Posts |
Posted - 08/31/2009 : 17:51:49
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Is it a comparison of some "ideal and pure" relational database against a “corrupted version” implemented by database vendors
Um, it's Chris Date, what else does he write about?  |
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GilaMonster
Flowing Fount of Yak Knowledge
South Africa
4507 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2009 : 04:39:50
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Originally posted by Michael Valentine Jones
Is it a comparison of some "ideal and pure" relational database against a “corrupted version” implemented by database vendors, or does it take on the problems of how to solve the problems addressed by OUTER JOINS in a real-world RDBMS, like SQL Server?
Didn't read it entirely, looks more theoretical, about the relational model, how to use the 'corrupted versions' in a way that's closer to the theoretical ideal, etc.
If you're interested: http://my.safaribooksonline.com/9780596155865
Free trial, you don't need membership.
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blindman
Flowing Fount of Yak Knowledge
USA
2365 Posts |
Posted - 09/01/2009 : 10:35:55
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Originally posted by GilaMonster
I must say I'm surprised that someone who claims to follow the relational model would assume an order on a table.
Yeah, I thought that was pretty ironic too.
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