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pdset
Constraint Violating Yak Guru

310 Posts

Posted - 2009-04-16 : 19:16:31

Hi Experts,

I have an application which does all the rights like doing DML operations on a given user account (‘user-1’).
I have created another similar user account (‘user-2’) which has to do only the READ and INSERT operations but not any UPDATE or DELETE operations.

This is on SQL Server 2000.

Now the problem is from the application this particular ‘user-2’ is able to delete and able to update with the images that he use to get in and get out.
I have given all access to Server Roles; and only the database which this ‘user-2’ has an access from the ‘User-2’ login properties.
From the Database node, Users I have restricted like revoke Delete and Update permissions to this ‘user-2’ user.

Still I am able to see the Update and Delete operations are able to carry.

Can anyone tell how to stop Update and Delete operations.

Many thanks in advance

sodeep
Master Smack Fu Yak Hacker

7174 Posts

Posted - 2009-04-18 : 00:39:13
Why did you give all access to server roles? Read Server roles and database roles in Booksonline.
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pdset
Constraint Violating Yak Guru

310 Posts

Posted - 2009-04-19 : 18:40:56
Server Roles are required for this application to run, as this is governs at Super user Level.

However, this DELETE is not working as it is still deleting despite being DENY an REVOKE of Delete.

Any Further Help

Thanks
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sodeep
Master Smack Fu Yak Hacker

7174 Posts

Posted - 2009-04-19 : 20:39:39
Question is: what server role you gave to user?
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pdset
Constraint Violating Yak Guru

310 Posts

Posted - 2009-04-19 : 21:00:02
All Server Roles.
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tripodal
Constraint Violating Yak Guru

259 Posts

Posted - 2009-04-20 : 10:14:57
there are roles which deny certain things as well.
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pdset
Constraint Violating Yak Guru

310 Posts

Posted - 2009-04-20 : 17:30:35
Thanks so far.

Can you be little specific as I have given every possibility yet what It should happen is User should not DELETE.

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svicky9
Posting Yak Master

232 Posts

Posted - 2009-04-21 : 07:04:50
You do not need to give all the sever roles.Remove all the roles and try to give the roles at the Database level and test at each stage..Grant the update and select permissions to the user at the Database Level

http://www.sqlserver007.com
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pdset
Constraint Violating Yak Guru

310 Posts

Posted - 2009-04-21 : 17:11:18
Thanks VickyS, I have given exactly the select, update and DENY the Delete permission at database level.

Still user is able to DELETE.

This is the problem
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sodeep
Master Smack Fu Yak Hacker

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Posted - 2009-04-21 : 17:24:58
Run sp_helprotect and sp_helplogins for that login so we can analyze.
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pdset
Constraint Violating Yak Guru

310 Posts

Posted - 2009-04-22 : 02:19:26

SERVER: 2000

RESULTS OF SP_HELPLOGINS

LOGINNAME DEFLANGNAME AUSER AREMOTE
dclinic DIMAXIS us_english yes no


LOGIN NAME DBNAME USERNAME USER or ALIAS
dclinic DIMAXIS db_accessadmin MemberOf
dclinic DIMAXIS dclinic User

Results of SP_HELPROTECT

SELECT, INSERT - GRANTED

UPDATE, DELETE - DENIED

I have the User who clicks onto the application is able to select, insert and also able delete, despite DELETE DENIED.


User specifically wants all the SERVERROLES under the Security -Logins - Property Sheet.

I selected Server Roles such as SYSTEM, SECURITY, SEVER, SETUP, PROCESS, DISK, BULK INSERT Administrators and DATABASE CREATORS.

I have select ALL ROLES under this.

May be this could be the reason why user is able to DELETE Successfully.

As everything is working fine except DELETE, which User should not DELETE.

Can anyone help in this as what SERVER ROLES should not be given (2000 server)

Many thanks with great help
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pdset
Constraint Violating Yak Guru

310 Posts

Posted - 2009-04-22 : 19:28:39

Experts,

Any Advise for me Please.

Thanks
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sodeep
Master Smack Fu Yak Hacker

7174 Posts

Posted - 2009-04-23 : 00:06:37
As I said in my last post, Did you read all features of SERVER ROLES in Booksonline? Please read it. REMEMBER SERVER ROLES OVERRIDES all OTHER ROLE.
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pdset
Constraint Violating Yak Guru

310 Posts

Posted - 2009-04-23 : 00:37:08
I am completely aware of that SERVER ROLES, what I am asking is very simple yet could not get it. so was bothering.......

As my last post details of the DELETE should not happen and all my STANDARD and APP Roles were perfectly denied at Object level and if I don't add the Server roles the IMAGES cannot be entered, inserted, updated and deleted.

To do that, SELECT Server role then I could Insert / update the Images using the Dmaxis as user. So I need to enforce the server roles to enact the Insert / Update, But should not happen DELETE.

May I request as to how I can use these server roles yet deprive the user from DELETE, is all my concentration.

Thanks for your suggestions so far.
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tripodal
Constraint Violating Yak Guru

259 Posts

Posted - 2009-04-27 : 11:45:37
Can you create a new server role?
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pdset
Constraint Violating Yak Guru

310 Posts

Posted - 2009-04-29 : 00:08:11


Ok I acknowledge all your replies so far.

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pdset
Constraint Violating Yak Guru

310 Posts

Posted - 2009-05-06 : 00:14:00
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robvolk
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15732 Posts

Posted - 2009-05-06 : 00:18:31
I'm not sure what the confusion is all about, so let's be clear about this:

Logins in the Sysadmin server roles have full rights to all databases and server objects.

Therefore, you cannot revoke its delete permissions in a database. You must remove that login from the Sysadmin role, otherwise you can't achieve what you're attempting to do.
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pdset
Constraint Violating Yak Guru

310 Posts

Posted - 2009-05-06 : 01:02:41
The Role was created specifically without the delete permission and denied thereafter and attached this to the login and did worked out.

It was difficult at the initial instance as this delete is surrounded around the IMAGES being created, updated,and inserted, but it was doing Delete so now it got.

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