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X002548
Not Just a Number
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SamC
White Water Yakist
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Posted - 2005-08-02 : 13:00:01
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Dang! I read the thread title and thought you had landed the Cobol to Sybase job yourself  |
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Kristen
Test
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Posted - 2005-08-02 : 13:43:02
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| No openings until October 2099 I believe ....Kristen |
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spirit1
Cybernetic Yak Master
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Posted - 2005-08-02 : 13:47:47
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i don't get it...  is the catch that BCP is sql server thing or what??Go with the flow & have fun! Else fight the flow  |
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tkizer
Almighty SQL Goddess
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Posted - 2005-08-02 : 13:58:29
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| Well SQL Server and Sybase were the same product years ago. They both have bcp.exe, well at least Sybase used to when I looked at it a while back.Tara |
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spirit1
Cybernetic Yak Master
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Posted - 2005-08-02 : 14:00:36
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| ohhh.... thanx tara.Go with the flow & have fun! Else fight the flow |
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Kristen
Test
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Posted - 2005-08-02 : 14:07:40
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| "SQL Server and Sybase were the same product years ago"How did that pan out then?MS: We'd like to license Sybase, we think some of our ideas will help enhance itSybase: OKMS: We think a GUI for the tools, a bunch of Wizards for non-DBAs, get rid of that Fixed File Size stuff and have dynamic file growth, integrate with our Free Text search, hook in Plain English Queries ...[actually that last one was prob. Sybase original, I think Watcom or Power Builder had an interest in that] ... anyways ...Sybase: We don't think that will ever catch on.MS: Bye???Kristen |
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graz
Chief SQLTeam Crack Dealer
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Posted - 2005-08-02 : 15:03:54
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| Actually the conversation went like this:MS: We'd like to license Sybase but only for PC ServersSybase: OK, that's a tiny percentage of the market.. We don't think that will ever catch on.MS: Bye===============================================Creating tomorrow's legacy systems today.One crisis at a time. |
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Kristen
Test
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Posted - 2005-08-02 : 15:11:43
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X002548
Not Just a Number
15586 Posts |
Posted - 2005-08-02 : 15:27:47
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| Actually, the joke is that COBOL is a language.Secondly, Kalen Delaneys Inside SQL Server has one of the best histories about the whole b'dness. Talks about IBM, OS/2, NT, Unix, Sybase.The best part (and I kinda remeber this) is that SQL Server 1.1 Shipped as a nicety so they could sell LAN Manager..M$ didn't think there was a market for a PC Based RDBMS....IBM and the mainframes were at their height. I think that was back in 1990/91 somewhere in there...when I was fully imersed in DB2 V3.2 OS/380 or was it 360?I actually wrote a REXX that would convert COBOL Copybooks into DDL though.I should blog that...if I could find it.Brett8-)Hint: Want your questions answered fast? Follow the direction in this linkhttp://weblogs.sqlteam.com/brettk/archive/2005/05/25/5276.aspx |
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Kristen
Test
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Posted - 2005-08-02 : 15:47:52
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| We made money out of Power Builder and Watcom's SQL at that time - Watcom had a really impressive optimising C compiler, so we were therefore certain that their SQL product would be brilliant tooPowerSoft bought Watcom, and Sybase bought PowerSoft. And then the boss of PowerSoft became the boss of Sybase IIRC.Then the PowerSoft "creatives" broke away to create a WWW version of their Client/Server delivery-application-dream (Silverstream was it?) and then Novell bought that ...Or something like that ...Kristen |
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SamC
White Water Yakist
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Posted - 2005-08-02 : 15:59:59
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Originally posted by X002548
I think that was back in 1990/91 somewhere in there...when I was fully imersed in DB2 V3.2 OS/380 or was it 360?I actually wrote a REXX that would convert COBOL Copybooks into DDL though.
I wrote a few lines of assembler for a 360 and an antique (IBM 1800) in college, but my history was one-up'ed by an older coworker who had programmed a computer with a mercury delay line memory back in the 50s. I threw this in because I'd never heard of mercury delay memory before or since that conversation.This was a while back. |
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COBOL To Sybase?